AArrrgh! Bad day to be in a battlesuit...
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Another playtest of the Training scenario... with some lessons learned applied. Red - do not be too aggressive with Jump at start; take a methodical approach. No major rules changed, but I'm thinking along those lines, trying to give the RAW [Rules As Written] the maximum benefit of the doubt...after all, Steve Jackson is a famous game designer and publisher, while I'm a not famous game designer and publisher - so let's show some humility!
This time, Red entered keeping low and out of sight. If Black entered the board in Line of Sight with a Jump High, then Red would get Reaction Fire first, as the 'suit entered. As it stands, I didn't want to risk it with Black, so I entered in three teams of two, all of which utilized hill or woods to avoid Line of Sight. This made most Fire and Reaction Fire ineffective.
Above, Red Heavy Weapons team - two Standard 'suits - can hide behind the 3-level hill, but are not in Soft Cover, which ultimately was a bad choice - they should have been in the Woods to the left. Below, Black Reaction Fire damages a 'suit.
Above, the yellow-ish circles mark Targeting Units, the smaller orange circles the Targeted enemy Units. Targeting gives a significant bonus to shooting, effectively negating the Soft Cover bonus. And if you have no Soft Cover, you are looking at even IF having a good chance to Shock or Damage 'suits.
Obviously, I - again - didn't play Red well. I should have kept the entire force closer and used the two woods on the north and south ends of the 4-level hill to provide Soft Cover. The Heavy Weapons team sustained some damage by moving closer and using open ground out of Line of Sight as a position is not a good idea - you need the additional bonus for Soft or Hard Cover.
The rule that only allows undamaged 'suits to use the Heavy Weapon is pretty tough. I'm tempted to change it to 0-1 level of Damage. OTOH, it does put a limit on them dominating the battlefield, and who is to say that such a technical limit won't be part of a future weapon system? Still, my take is that the military likes common support weapons to be very tough and durable, easy to deploy and use.
The game scenario basically plays like this:
- approaching force enters the battlespace under fairly effective Reaction Fire from the Defender, even fighting down the long end and staying out of LoS.
- the entire board becomes a shooting gallery with no safe place, and little need to maneuver except to get into Soft Cover. Once there, it is a dice-rolling event until one side gets some advantage.
- it is still pretty reasonable to not maneuver even then, and just continue dropping dice and shooting, hoping to turn the Fire superiority into a decisive advantage.
In short, unless it is required by the scenario, there is nearly no reason to maneuver.
This reminds me a bit of a naval game on the open ocean.
So I will shorten the Range penalty from 10 hexes to 5 hexes, adjust the CRT and put some more terrain out, including Hard Cover. Aside from that, the rules play fine with plenty of man-to-man firefight tension. The Ranger 'suit provides a Unit with additional defense capability for maneuver, and the Assault 'suit provides that little bit of extra firepower that makes a difference at long range. The Standard 'suit is a bit weak, but makes for a good body to man the Heavy Weapon, with a backup buddy.
The game is flavorful, with Jump and Drones adding the futuristic elements, while everything else is pretty much a variation on what we have now [Heavy Weapon is a grenade launcher]. Play is a bit like a bunch of attack helicopters using Nape of the Earth tactics to snipe at each other, except that all forces can use Indirect Fire, and actually be IN cover, which of course reminds you that they are men not 'copters.
All this to say that with some flavorful scenarios, the game can easily refight famous skirmishes from any war you like from 1916 to 2016 [say, from an Afghanistan memoir you really enjoyed] to more futuristic conflicts in the Arctic or even the moon.
As the game comes with plentiful bunker and hard cover [buildings] counters, you can model any scenario against a fortified line or village, using any scenario system you like.
I remember that game fondly, though I was never fond of playing it. Still have my copy. I love infantry, but the check LOS on every space you move through bogged down the game to where there was no fun left. This might reflect that me and my group of the time were prone to analysis paralysis.
ReplyDeleteI should try it again if I find any local wargamers.
Well, if you're in the Philly area, LMK! If you're in the Houston area...BOOOOOO! haha.
DeleteYes, I pretty much bag that while playing against myself - all I need to know is what the fig is going to do, and I adjudicate RF accordingly. After all, you can only have so many men that can RF anyway. And often the only one that matters is the Heavy Weapon.
If you like, I can share my QRS which has some streamlining but most importantly organizes and cross references the rules a bit.
Yes, please share your QRS.
DeleteAshley, sent it to the email in your gmail profile. alex
DeleteJust moved from DFW to Central Minnesota, so don't know anyone here yet. And I'd also like to see your QRS, please.
DeleteSure Karl - can you give me an e-dress? I couldn't see one on either of your websites. Alex
DeleteKarl, sent to your email. Alex
DeleteGot it, thank you! I may try them out with my son if I can get him to branch out from WH40K.
DeleteI am a looong time OGRE/GEV player, albeit on a hiatus for the last decade or so. However, I am now rediscovering Battlesuit, which is a game I never played as much and so really enjoying your articles. I do recall playing on the standard OGRE map back in the day, where the craters and ridges generated a lot of LOS dead spots and enabled a bunch of nasty cat and mouse games, which was fun!
ReplyDeleteThere was also an article on how to add GEVs to the game, which you can find here - going to trying playing with the GEV-PC for hoverblitz attacks...
https://micro.brainiac.com/vindicator/vind3n302.jpg
(its a 3 page article - get the next two pages just by making the last number 3 and 4...)
Cool! I have the micro-armor plastics, so maybe will use the GEV's someday. The individual plastic men fit onto the board as-is. Am considering a complete streamlining of the LoS rules and playing it in 28mm for my local gaming club. We'll see.
DeletePaul, sent to your email. Alex
Deletegot it -thanks!!!
DeleteInteresting thoughts on the play. My initial reaction is that the rules were written as a sort of simulation of a what if...
ReplyDeleteWhile a game can be a simulation, it also has to be be a game too. As such, I'm not sure I would enjoy playing this game as it stands. But we shall see.
PS: just because SJ is a big name designer it doesn't mean his rules are perfect. Arguably, Battlesuit hasn't aged all that well. I know my OHMU War Machine rules have become badly dated.
I'm playtesting the shortened Range penalties and modified [less lethal] QRS and it makes the game a lot more fun - much more maneuvering in the same space. By doubling the ground and notional time scale nothing has actually changed except the QRS. It is moved 'up' one line, so the former Attack 6 is now Attack 7, etc. Not a big change, but with an additional -2 for Range being typical, the net is that most units are firing at about an Attack 6 with a hit on a 7+ with the dice, which puts us back into familiar "starting with a 50% chance" to hit territory.
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